HoM points w/o Factions or Prophecies - Guild Wars Forums

Inferi Rising · Dec 07, 2010, 03:20 PM // 15:20

I just wonder how many HoM points I will be able to gain without Factions or Prophecies, since I only got NF and EotN.

Don't count in stuff that costs alot since I am a newbie and only got around 40k in cash

Thanks

Dzjudz · Dec 07, 2010, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Step 1: go to the HoM calculator
Step 2: go to Demo Mode
Step 3: for each monument check the statues/items you are able to achieve
Step 4: see how many points you got!

In short: it's possible to achieve more than 30 points, unlocking all items, but it's not possible to get 50 points. 45 is even possible, but would require maxing wisdom, treasure hunter, etc. No PvP titles required (except zaishen of course).

FengShuiDove · Dec 07, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32

-8 points (Devotion)
-7 points (Fellowship) -- lacking Imperial Phoenix
-14 points (Honor) -- about 20 decently easy HoMable titles, about 29 available some of which are very difficult
-7 points (Resilience) -- lacking Kurzick/Luxon
-7 points (Valor) -- lacking Oppressor

Can still pretty easily get 30.

P.S. Get the Trilogy

Dzjudz · Dec 07, 2010, 03:38 PM // 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

-8 points (Devotion)
-7 points (Fellowship) -- lacking Imperial Phoenix
-14 points (Honor) -- about 20 decently easy HoMable titles, about 29 available some of which are very difficult
-7 points (Resilience) -- lacking Kurzick/Luxon
-7 points (Valor) -- lacking Oppressor

Can still pretty easily get 30.

P.S. Get the Trilogy

You can easily buy an oppressor weapon, making valor 8. Honor can be as high as 15 points without pvp titles, but would require wisdom/treasure hunter etc.

drkn · Dec 07, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29

If you want to buy items from players (would need A LOT of money and time, as well): 45 points
Easy points (no buying from other players, but it needs armors and destroyer weapons + one torm weapon): 24-27

dansamy · Dec 07, 2010, 04:40 PM // 16:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

-8 points (Devotion)
-7 points (Fellowship) -- lacking Imperial Phoenix
-14 points (Honor) -- about 20 decently easy HoMable titles, about 29 available some of which are very difficult
-7 points (Resilience) -- lacking Kurzick/Luxon
-7 points (Valor) -- lacking Oppressor

Can still pretty easily get 30.

P.S. Get the Trilogy

Lacking Imperial Phoenix, 3 heroes and the Black Moa. Since the OP lacks 5 for fellowship, he should just stop at 20 companion statues. No need to spend precious resources on 5 extra hero armors for no ROI.

OP, you can obtain 45/50, but it will be expensive.

FengShuiDove · Dec 07, 2010, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dzjudz

You can easily buy an oppressor weapon, making valor 8.

Oh yeah >_<.

Since the OP said no high-cost titles, I'd assume his best bet is to do all of the rep titles and completion titles in NF and GW:EN. Can get 5 titles/monuments from GW:EN, and 8-10 from NF depending on how much he can get done. Tack on a few for elite areas and he's nearing 20, which is probably all he's realistically going to get.

So, OP, if I were you, I'd do all titles and monuments related to "100% completion" of GW:EN and NF, including Asura, Norn, Vanguard, and Dwarven rep, Master of the North, Elonian Protector/Guardian/Cartographer/Skill Hunter/Hero/Vanquisher, Sunspear, Lightbringer, and then the elite areas Domain of Anguish, Fissure of Woe, and the Underworld. Save as much as you can for weapons, minis, and armor, farm hero armors yourself, and you should be good to go.

There are several account wide titles that are very easy to get into the HoM, Lucky and Unlucky, which you'll never max but can get in a weekend with a chunk of change.

dansamy · Dec 07, 2010, 04:54 PM // 16:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

Oh yeah >_<.

Since the OP said no high-cost titles, I'd assume his best bet is to do all of the rep titles and completion titles in NF and GW:EN. Can get 5 titles/monuments from GW:EN, and 8-10 from NF depending on how much he can get done. Tack on a few for elite areas and he's nearing 20, which is probably all he's realistically going to get.

So, OP, if I were you, I'd do all titles and monuments related to "100% completion" of GW:EN and NF, including Asura, Norn, Vanguard, and Dwarven rep, Master of the North, Elonian Protector/Guardian/Cartographer/Skill Hunter/Hero/Vanquisher, Sunspear, Lightbringer, and then the elite areas Domain of Anguish, Fissure of Woe, and the Underworld. Save as much as you can for weapons, minis, and armor, farm hero armors yourself, and you should be good to go.

There are several account wide titles that are very easy to get into the HoM, Lucky and Unlucky, which you'll never max but can get in a weekend with a chunk of change.

He can't really get Lucky/Unlucky in a weekend due to the fact that he doesn't have access to Factions. No Boardwalk AFKing the Rings for him. His Lucky/Unlucky will have to come from lockpicks.

OP, with no minis, only the spider and animal statues, a full set of Destroyer weapons, no armors and only the playing the game titles, you can get 17 points. Without the weapons, you can get 12 points. Those are just "play the game" points. With some farming, you can add hero armors, weapons, elite armors and minis to easily get you to the 30 points you need for all the legacy items. That will require some farming though.

FengShuiDove · Dec 07, 2010, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Oh man... the things you take for granted

.

**cosyfiep** · Dec 07, 2010, 05:58 PM // 17:58

here is a link to a thread about a person who had only prophecies and eye...might help a bit

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...tml?t=10459791

Dzjudz · Dec 07, 2010, 07:25 PM // 19:25

I realise that it doesn't make any difference since you can't get Olias, MOX and Zenmai, but is it for a non-faction account possible to buy the black moa and the imperial phoenix in the zaishen menagerie?

dasmitchies · Dec 07, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46

You can't buy moa and pheonix due to campaign restrictions if you havn't the games.

End · Dec 07, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06

30/50 should be no problem...and since it's what everyones going for you won't feel to left out...
The pics have what I would personally do, I put them as links rather then actually putting them in for size reasons.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...tydevotion.png
The minis you can just buy them soon their prices will be lower I would expect. I'd reccomend a moa chick and celestial tiger. They will probably be the cheapest.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...fellowship.png
Fellowship...get a guildy to help you with the black widow just do the quest in vale it's quick and easy. (or at least I think it's vale I cant remember now)
The hero armors themselve are horridly easy to farm and should not be a problem obtaining.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ilityhonor.png
I tried to keep honor as light as possible. Titles for some people feel to grindy. And while yes I put in some of the grindiest. I think they are the easiest to acctually accomplish without spending much if anything.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...resilience.png
Armors...Pretty straight forward...if you want to save money. Don't buy the headpeices you can save yourself 10k+ for each armor set that way.
I left out vabbian even though I love it. Because it's to expensive for this purpose. Obby...lol. I really just could not think of a cheaper way to do the armors.

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ilityvalor.png
I went heave on the destroyer weapons in valor. Thats really optional. The thought was you will probably get enough of the onyx and diamonds if you just go through most of the dungeons once or twice. The rest you can buy or keep going through dungeons till you have the onyx and what not. You can just buy an opressor weapon. Note that if you plan on buying rather then crafting the destroyer weapons you can check the prices. They may be cheaper at this point then destroyer weapons.

Basically the money for everything you need will come as you do the titles for honor and as you play the game. While you only have 40k now doing all those titles. You should end up with enough for at least the armors. Remember to keep golds unid'd and sell them since you won't be getting max wisdom. You'll make more money that way. In an average casual evening farming (hey I gotta do something while watching movies) I can get 60k in unids. And thats just me casually farming. I don't really recommend farming as it's boring as RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and not having all campaigns will make it hard but yeah you may need to do a little.

Dec 07, 2010, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#1
Inferi Rising Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Oct 2010 Guild: The Masterminds V [MM] Profession: W/	HoM points w/o Factions or Prophecies I just wonder how many HoM points I will be able to gain without Factions or Prophecies, since I only got NF and EotN. Don't count in stuff that costs alot since I am a newbie and only got around 40k in cash Thanks

Dec 07, 2010, 03:28 PM // 15:28	#2
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Step 1: go to the HoM calculator Step 2: go to Demo Mode Step 3: for each monument check the statues/items you are able to achieve Step 4: see how many points you got! In short: it's possible to achieve more than 30 points, unlocking all items, but it's not possible to get 50 points. 45 is even possible, but would require maxing wisdom, treasure hunter, etc. No PvP titles required (except zaishen of course). Last edited by Dzjudz; Dec 07, 2010 at 03:35 PM // 15:35..

Dec 07, 2010, 05:58 PM // 17:58	#10
cosyfiep are we there yet? Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in a land far far away Guild: guild? I am supposed to have a guild? Profession: Rt/	here is a link to a thread about a person who had only prophecies and eye...might help a bit http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/h...tml?t=10459791 __________________ where is the 'all you can eat' cookie bar?

Dec 07, 2010, 10:06 PM // 22:06	#13
End Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rubbing Potassium on water fountains. Guild: LF guild that teaches MTSC (did it long ago before gw2 came out and I quit...but I barely remember) Profession: N/A	30/50 should be no problem...and since it's what everyones going for you won't feel to left out... The pics have what I would personally do, I put them as links rather then actually putting them in for size reasons. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...tydevotion.png The minis you can just buy them soon their prices will be lower I would expect. I'd reccomend a moa chick and celestial tiger. They will probably be the cheapest. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...fellowship.png Fellowship...get a guildy to help you with the black widow just do the quest in vale it's quick and easy. (or at least I think it's vale I cant remember now) The hero armors themselve are horridly easy to farm and should not be a problem obtaining. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ilityhonor.png I tried to keep honor as light as possible. Titles for some people feel to grindy. And while yes I put in some of the grindiest. I think they are the easiest to acctually accomplish without spending much if anything. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...resilience.png Armors...Pretty straight forward...if you want to save money. Don't buy the headpeices you can save yourself 10k+ for each armor set that way. I left out vabbian even though I love it. Because it's to expensive for this purpose. Obby...lol. I really just could not think of a cheaper way to do the armors. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...ilityvalor.png I went heave on the destroyer weapons in valor. Thats really optional. The thought was you will probably get enough of the onyx and diamonds if you just go through most of the dungeons once or twice. The rest you can buy or keep going through dungeons till you have the onyx and what not. You can just buy an opressor weapon. Note that if you plan on buying rather then crafting the destroyer weapons you can check the prices. They may be cheaper at this point then destroyer weapons. Basically the money for everything you need will come as you do the titles for honor and as you play the game. While you only have 40k now doing all those titles. You should end up with enough for at least the armors. Remember to keep golds unid'd and sell them since you won't be getting max wisdom. You'll make more money that way. In an average casual evening farming (hey I gotta do something while watching movies) I can get 60k in unids. And thats just me casually farming. I don't really recommend farming as it's boring as RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO and not having all campaigns will make it hard but yeah you may need to do a little. Last edited by End; Dec 07, 2010 at 10:11 PM // 22:11..

Dec 07, 2010, 03:32 PM // 15:32	#3
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	-8 points (Devotion) -7 points (Fellowship) -- lacking Imperial Phoenix -14 points (Honor) -- about 20 decently easy HoMable titles, about 29 available some of which are very difficult -7 points (Resilience) -- lacking Kurzick/Luxon -7 points (Valor) -- lacking Oppressor Can still pretty easily get 30. P.S. Get the Trilogy

Dec 07, 2010, 04:29 PM // 16:29	#5
drkn Forge Runner Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Wroc??aw, Poland Guild: Midnight Mayhem Profession: Me/	If you want to buy items from players (would need A LOT of money and time, as well): 45 points Easy points (no buying from other players, but it needs armors and destroyer weapons + one torm weapon): 24-27

Dec 07, 2010, 05:16 PM // 17:16	#9
FengShuiDove Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2007 Guild: Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] Profession: A/	Oh man... the things you take for granted .

Dec 07, 2010, 07:25 PM // 19:25	#11
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	I realise that it doesn't make any difference since you can't get Olias, MOX and Zenmai, but is it for a non-faction account possible to buy the black moa and the imperial phoenix in the zaishen menagerie?

Dec 07, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46	#12
dasmitchies Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2007 Guild: Sacred Forge Knights Profession: W/P	You can't buy moa and pheonix due to campaign restrictions if you havn't the games.